well how come it's down for me? and don't say because of windows Does it give an error, or does it say "Unknown Host"? yes ..... YES IS NOT AN ANSWER TO "A OR B?" * Cyan683 sets mode: +i * Ramza was kicked by Cyan683 (Wham!    --  Kibou to Hikari no script) * Cyan683 sets mode: -i * Ramza (spoon@anandtech.com) has joined #starmen no?