I dunno, I haven't used a stock HSF in one of my machines since P200 days Which probably accounts for the fact I've got a cold CPU most days and fuck all else to my name :) Then again, the drug addict and alcoholic phases probably don't help either. Still, at least I can play video games drunk and stoned with the heater on :P And really, isn't that what's important in life? ... I wish I had a heater :(